# How to edit the default Octave Users Group permission **URL:** \ **Category:** Octave\ **Created:** [April 6, 2022, 1:27am UTC](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/t/how-to-edit-the-default-octave-users-group-permission/26744 "2022-04-06T01:27:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jameshorng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/90db22/32.png) [@jameshorng](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/u/jameshorng)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 1:27am UTC](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/t/how-to-edit-the-default-octave-users-group-permission/26744/1 "2022-04-06T01:27:35Z")
In the 'Note" of the Octave document [Managing User Groups and Permissions](https://docs.octave.dev/docs/managing-user-groups-and-permissions), It mentioned, the “Users” group permissions can be edited. But I couldn’t find where to edit the permission. The Cloud Actions/Connectors/Edge Actions/Blueprints are always R/W enabled. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/sierrawireless/original/2X/1/19813c9d4afe966023c25a9bc8ecdf21a6527dd2.png) ---
**Author:** ![djudkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ea924/32.png) [@djudkins](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/u/djudkins)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 4:16pm UTC](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/t/how-to-edit-the-default-octave-users-group-permission/26744/2 "2022-04-08T16:16:31Z")
Hi James, I entered a Jira ticket for the documentation. Link = [Managing User Groups and Permissions](https://docs.octave.dev/docs/managing-user-groups-and-permissions) ---
**Author:** ![jameshorng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/90db22/32.png) [@jameshorng](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/u/jameshorng)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 10:09am UTC](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/t/how-to-edit-the-default-octave-users-group-permission/26744/3 "2022-04-09T10:09:48Z")
Can I edit the Users Group permission? I wanted to disabled the Cloud Action & Edge Action R/W permission for some user as default. Is this possible? James ---
**Author:** ![djudkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ea924/32.png) [@djudkins](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/u/djudkins)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2022, 2:19pm UTC](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/t/how-to-edit-the-default-octave-users-group-permission/26744/4 "2022-04-11T14:19:14Z")
Hi James, Create a new group (example, limited users) and select the permissions you require. Here is a group I created called users\_limited: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/sierrawireless/original/2X/b/bb6b5bd92b5fee7ec5ca37f2c3afb1ff1bbb9add.png) I added the group to my user dave\_judkins ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/sierrawireless/original/2X/c/c2dceb596b340e7f172233eb5f8a5a3867540ae7.png) Here is what limited user dave\_judkins observes in Octave when selecting cloud actions or connectors. The user does not see or have access to cloud actions or connectors or billing. The users\_limited group overrides the permissions in the default users group. Don’t forget to set the device, files, streams access in the new users\_limited group ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/sierrawireless/original/2X/9/96dc077e5aa841aacb041456578cc79d7e1ca7f3.png) ---
**Author:** ![jameshorng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/90db22/32.png) [@jameshorng](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/u/jameshorng)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2022, 11:43pm UTC](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/t/how-to-edit-the-default-octave-users-group-permission/26744/5 "2022-04-11T23:43:43Z")
Somehow it looked different on my octave dashboard. Default Users Group ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/sierrawireless/original/2X/d/de3c4d4edb29edb7efdc1660e6fcdd86eb705eb1.png) created new group users\_limited ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/sierrawireless/original/2X/d/d471dec7b0e3263b1a32b885cfb58b6dd15cefdc.png) assigned user to users\_limited group ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/sierrawireless/original/2X/c/c4555e3365082c0c1f64cdcb0180c998657abc39.png) The setting in users\_limited did not override the settings in the default users group. I tried with both Chrome and Edge browser. Wonder what I have missed. ---
**Author:** ![djudkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ea924/32.png) [@djudkins](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/u/djudkins)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2022, 7:58pm UTC](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/t/how-to-edit-the-default-octave-users-group-permission/26744/6 "2022-04-12T19:58:07Z")
Hi James, Could you invite me to your Octave account? ---
**Author:** ![jameshorng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/90db22/32.png) [@jameshorng](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/u/jameshorng)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 1:57am UTC](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/t/how-to-edit-the-default-octave-users-group-permission/26744/7 "2022-04-13T01:57:07Z")
Hi, David, Just did. I invited you to the default Users group. Please let me know if you need other access. James ---
**Author:** ![djudkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ea924/32.png) [@djudkins](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/u/djudkins)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 12:44pm UTC](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/t/how-to-edit-the-default-octave-users-group-permission/26744/8 "2022-04-13T12:44:45Z")
Sorry James, Can you send the invite one more time? ---
**Author:** ![djudkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ea924/32.png) [@djudkins](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/u/djudkins)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/t/how-to-edit-the-default-octave-users-group-permission/26744/9 "2022-04-13T14:52:41Z")
Hi james, Can you give me the first 6 letters of your Octave account name ? ---
**Author:** ![djudkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ea924/32.png) [@djudkins](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/u/djudkins)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2022, 12:16am UTC](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/t/how-to-edit-the-default-octave-users-group-permission/26744/10 "2022-04-14T00:16:13Z")
Hi James, I could reproduce the issue you are experiencing in your account. I will initiate a JIRA ticket to the product team… Could you leave my 2 users in your account for now? (david\_judkins and dave\_judkins). so I can walk them through the process? Thanks for your patience.