# EM7565 - GNSS errors

**URL:** <https://forum.sierrawireless.com/t/em7565-gnss-errors/18128>\
**Category:** MC/EM Series\
**Created:** [October 30, 2019, 5:29pm UTC](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/t/em7565-gnss-errors/18128 "2019-10-30T17:29:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![koenvandeputte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dfb087/32.png) [@koenvandeputte](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/u/koenvandeputte)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 5:29pm UTC](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/t/em7565-gnss-errors/18128/1 "2019-10-30T17:29:49Z")

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Hi,

Modem details:

Manufacturer: Sierra Wireless, Incorporated  
Model: EM7565  
Revision: SWI9X50C\_01.09.04.00 6d3218 jenkins 2019/02/26 20:33:22

GPS NMEA details set:  
AT!GPSNMEASENTENCE=C9FDF

Which means:

- Enable all GP\* sentences
- Enable all GL\* sentences
- Enable all GN\* sentences
- Enable all GA\* sentences

Errors seen:

- Speed is always 0.0, no matter if there is movement or not. Applies to all RMC and VTG sentences.
- Multiple GNGSA sentences are being produced. There are too many, and the final one contains an invalid field just before the CRC
- Enabling GPDTM does not produce this sentence at all
- Missing support for ZDA sentences (Time)

Here is output from the device:

$GLGSV,3,1,09,74,35,040,29,67,59,314,16,66,60,139,77,47,206,1_7F  
$GLGSV,3,2,09,76,70,054,75,19,037,65,00,137,84,12,000,1_70  
$GLGSV,3,3,09,83,07,306,1_48  
$GPGSV,3,1,10,05,49,202,29,08,09,036,21,13,71,295,31,15,35,291,31,1_61  
$GPGSV,3,2,10,21,12,312,21,28,46,125,35,30,52,066,44,07,19,061,1_63  
$GPGSV,3,3,10,20,27,02,004,1_54  
$GPGGA,171546.00,5114.148365,N,00312.975149,E,1,05,1.4,16.9,M,47.0,M,_5A  
$GAGGA,171546.00,5114.148365,N,00312.975149,E,1,00,1.4,16.9,M,47.0,M,4E  
$GNGNS,171546.00,5114.148365,N,00312.975149,E,AAN,06,1.4,16.9,47.0,V59  
$GPVTG,253.4,T,255.6,M, **0.0,N,0.0,K** ,A_27  
$GAVTG,253.4,T,255.6,M, **0.0,N,0.0,K** ,A_36  
$GPRMC,171546.00,A,5114.148365,N,00312.975149,E, **0.0** ,253.4,301019,2.2,W,A,V_5C  
$GARMC,171546.00,A,5114.148365,N,00312.975149,E, **0.0** ,253.4,301019,2.2,W,A,V_4D  
$GPGSA,A,2,05,13,15,28,30,1.7,1.4,1.0,1_26  
$GAGSA,A,1,_23  
$GNGSA,A,2,05,13,15,28,30,1.7,1.4,1.0,1_38  
$GNGSA,A,2,74,1.7,1.4,1.0,2_32  
$GNGSA,A,2,1.7,1.4,1.0_2F  
$GNGSA,A,2,1.7,1.4,1.0_2F  
$GNGSA,A,2,1.7,1.4,1.0, **3** _30  
$GLGSV,3,1,09,74,35,040,29,67,59,314,16,66,60,139,77,47,206,1_7F  
$GLGSV,3,2,09,76,70,054,75,19,037,65,00,137,84,12,000,1_70  
$GLGSV,3,3,09,83,07,306,1_48  
$GPGSV,3,1,10,05,49,202,29,08,09,036,21,13,71,295,31,15,35,291,31,1_61  
$GPGSV,3,2,10,21,12,312,21,28,46,125,35,30,52,066,44,07,19,061,1_63  
$GPGSV,3,3,10,20,27,02,004,1_54  
$GPGGA,171547.00,5114.148364,N,00312.975147,E,1,05,1.4,16.9,M,47.0,M,_54  
$GAGGA,171547.00,5114.148364,N,00312.975147,E,1,00,1.4,16.9,M,47.0,M,40  
$GNGNS,171547.00,5114.148364,N,00312.975147,E,AAN,06,1.4,16.9,47.0,V57  
$GPVTG,253.4,T,255.6,M,0.0,N,0.0,K,A_27  
$GAVTG,253.4,T,255.6,M,0.0,N,0.0,K,A_36  
$GPRMC,171547.00,A,5114.148364,N,00312.975147,E,0.0,253.4,301019,2.2,W,A,V_52  
$GARMC,171547.00,A,5114.148364,N,00312.975147,E,0.0,253.4,301019,2.2,W,A,V_43  
$GPGSA,A,2,05,13,15,28,30,1.7,1.4,1.0,1_26  
$GAGSA,A,1,_23  
$GNGSA,A,2,05,13,15,28,30,1.7,1.4,1.0,1_38  
$GNGSA,A,2,74,1.7,1.4,1.0,2_32  
$GNGSA,A,2,1.7,1.4,1.0_2F  
$GNGSA,A,2,1.7,1.4,1.0_2F  
$GNGSA,A,2,1.7,1.4,1.0,3_30

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**Author:** ![Vianney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/71e660/32.png) [@Vianney](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/u/Vianney)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2019, 8:29am UTC](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/t/em7565-gnss-errors/18128/2 "2019-11-04T08:29:24Z")

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Hi,  
1st error: I cannot check your speed error because my condition doesn’t allow to test speed.  
2nd & 3rd errors: I’ve not seen any errors as yours  
4th error: The document doesn’t state that ZDA sentences are supported. Maybe this is a future improvement

Here is output from the device:  
$GPGGA,082330.00,0,_42  
$GAGGA,082330.00,0,53  
$GNGNS,082330.00,NNN,39  
$GPVTG,T,M,N,K,N2C  
$GAVTG,T,M,N,K,N3D  
$GPRMC,V,N_53  
$GARMC,V,N_42  
$GPGSA,A,1,32  
$GAGSA,A,1,23  
$GNGSA,A,1,2C  
$GAGSV,2,1,07,04,19,320,36,01,65,154,12,32,248,19,38,023,773  
$GAGSV,2,2,07,21,42,053,31,21,201,33,24,191,74A  
$GPGSV,3,1,11,10,59,002,12,20,060,14,21,305,20,71,087,165  
$GPGSV,3,2,11,21,35,189,24,04,036,25,47,104,26,08,201,1_69  
$GPGSV,3,3,11,29,02,144,31,45,244,32,30,333,1_5C  
$GPGGA,082331.00,0,43  
$GAGGA,082331.00,0,52  
$GNGNS,082331.00,NNN,38  
$GPVTG,T,M,N,K,N2C  
$GAVTG,T,M,N,K,N3D  
$GPRMC,V,N53  
$GARMC,V,N_42  
$GPGSA,A,1,_32  
$GAGSA,A,1,23  
$GNGSA,A,1,2C  
$GAGSV,2,1,07,04,19,320,36,01,65,154,12,32,248,19,38,023,773  
$GAGSV,2,2,07,21,42,053,31,21,201,33,24,191,74A  
$GPGSV,3,1,11,10,59,002,12,20,060,14,21,305,20,71,087,1_65  
$GPGSV,3,2,11,21,35,189,24,04,036,25,47,104,26,08,201,1_69  
$GPGSV,3,3,11,29,02,144,31,45,244,32,30,333,1_5C  
$GPGGA,082332.00,0,_40  
$GAGGA,082332.00,0,51  
$GNGNS,082332.00,NNN,3B  
$GPVTG,T,M,N,K,N2C  
$GAVTG,T,M,N,K,N3D  
$GPRMC,V,N_53  
$GARMC,V,N_42  
$GPGSA,A,1,32  
$GAGSA,A,1,23  
$GNGSA,A,1,2C  
$GAGSV,2,1,07,04,19,320,35,01,65,154,12,32,248,19,38,023,770  
$GAGSV,2,2,07,21,42,053,31,21,201,33,24,191,74A  
$GPGSV,3,1,11,10,59,002,38,14,21,305,35,20,71,087,26,32,30,333,37,16E  
$GPGSV,3,2,11,12,20,060,21,35,189,24,04,036,25,47,104,1_61  
$GPGSV,3,3,11,26,08,201,29,02,144,31,45,244,1_52  
$GPGGA,082332.44,0,40  
$GAGGA,082332.44,0,51  
$GNGNS,082332.44,NNN,3B  
$GAGNS,082332.44,NNN,34  
$GPVTG,T,M,N,K,N2C  
$GAVTG,T,M,N,K,N3D  
$GPRMC,V,N53  
$GARMC,V,N42  
$GPGSA,A,1,32  
$GAGSA,A,1,23  
$GNGSA,A,1,2C  
$GPGGA,082333.00,0,41  
$GAGGA,082333.00,0,50  
$GNGNS,082333.00,NNN,3A  
$GAGNS,082333.00,NNN,35  
$GPVTG,T,M,N,K,N2C  
$GAVTG,T,M,N,K,N3D  
$GPRMC,V,N53  
$GARMC,V,N42  
$GPGSA,A,1,32  
$GAGSA,A,1,23  
$GNGSA,A,1,2C  
$GPGSV,3,1,11,10,59,002,38,12,20,059,21,14,21,305,35,20,71,087,26,165  
$GPGSV,3,2,11,24,04,036,28,25,47,104,24,32,30,333,36,21,35,189,16E  
$GPGSV,3,3,11,26,08,201,29,02,144,31,45,244,152  
$GAGSV,2,1,07,04,19,320,36,01,65,154,12,32,248,19,38,023,773  
$GAGSV,2,2,07,21,42,053,31,21,201,33,24,191,74A  
$GPGGA,082334.00,1051.395595,N,10637.873009,E,1,05,2.0,24.5,M,-1.0,M,4F  
$GPDTM,P90,0000.000009,S,00000.000002,W,0.998,W8451  
$GAGGA,082334.00,1051.395595,N,10637.873009,E,1,01,2.0,24.5,M,-1.0,M,5A  
$GNGNS,082334.00,1051.395595,N,10637.873009,E,ANA,06,2.0,24.5,-1.0,V4C  
$GAGNS,082334.00,1051.395595,N,10637.873009,E,NNA,01,2.0,24.5,-1.0,V4B  
$GPVTG,0.0,T,0.9,M,0.0,N,0.0,K,A_2A  
$GAVTG,0.0,T,0.9,M,0.0,N,0.0,K,A_3B  
$GPRMC,082334.00,A,1051.395595,N,10637.873009,E,0.0,0.0,041119,0.9,W,A,V_53  
$GARMC,082334.00,A,1051.395595,N,10637.873009,E,0.0,0.0,041119,0.9,W,A,V_42  
$GPGSA,A,2,10,12,20,24,32,2.2,2.0,0.9,1_22  
$GAGSA,A,2,04,2.2,2.0,0.9,3_32  
$GNGSA,A,2,10,12,20,24,32,2.2,2.0,0.9,1_3C  
$GNGSA,A,2,2.2,2.0,0.9,2_38  
$GNGSA,A,2,2.2,2.0,0.9_26  
$GNGSA,A,2,193,194,2.2,2.0,0.9_21  
$GNGSA,A,2,04,2.2,2.0,0.9,3_3D

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**Author:** ![koenvandeputte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dfb087/32.png) [@koenvandeputte](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/u/koenvandeputte)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2019, 8:47am UTC](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/t/em7565-gnss-errors/18128/3 "2019-11-04T08:47:31Z")

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@Vianney  
Thanks for sharing.

Could you please add your current NMEA config?  
AT!GPSNMEASENTENCE?

Which version are you running?

Issue 1 is the most severe one (Speed is always 0.0)

The other 3 are low prio  
After rebooting the module multiple times, I’m now seeing GPDTM

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Vianney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/71e660/32.png) [@Vianney](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/u/Vianney)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2019, 8:54am UTC](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/t/em7565-gnss-errors/18128/4 "2019-11-04T08:54:14Z")

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@koenvandeputte  
I use the same setting as yours.  
Here is my setting:  
ati9

Manufacturer: Sierra Wireless, Incorporated  
Model: EM7565  
Revision: SWI9X50C\_01.09.04.00 6d3218 jenkins 2019/02/26 20:33:22  
ESN: 12803145987, 80300103  
IMEI: 357756090004611  
IMEI SV: 9  
FSN: UF810187020206  
+GCAP: +CGSM

OK  
at!gpsnmeasentence?

!GPSNMEASENTENCE: 0xC9FDF

OK

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**Author:** ![koenvandeputte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dfb087/32.png) [@koenvandeputte](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/u/koenvandeputte)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2019, 10:40am UTC](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/t/em7565-gnss-errors/18128/5 "2019-11-04T10:40:49Z")

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Some more details on the issue regarding speed:

When only GPS sentences are enabled, speed is fine.  
When the sentences for other constellations are enable, speed is always 0.0

Smells like a bug …

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**Author:** ![koenvandeputte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dfb087/32.png) [@koenvandeputte](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/u/koenvandeputte)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 1:48pm UTC](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/t/em7565-gnss-errors/18128/6 "2020-02-27T13:48:51Z")

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Ping.  
Any update on this from Sierra dev team?

It’s pretty easy to simulate:

1

- Only enable GPS sentence bits
- Get a GPS fix
- Move around (see speed in NMEA strings) --\> OK

2

- Enable GPS + GLONASS/GALILEO sentence bits
- Get a GNSS fix
- Move around (see speed in NMEA strings) --\> BAD, speed is always 0.0

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**Author:** ![koenvandeputte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dfb087/32.png) [@koenvandeputte](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/u/koenvandeputte)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 9:47am UTC](https://forum.sierrawireless.com/t/em7565-gnss-errors/18128/7 "2020-06-11T09:47:13Z")

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Retested on revision: SWI9X50C\_01.11.00.00 5ba42f jenkins 2019/06/28 09:51:52

The main issue is still the same:

- Speed is 0.0 in all sentences when other GNSS constellations besides GPS are also enabled
